The Crossroads

In the season finale of Devil Music, we walk down to the crossroads to make a deal.

Steven Johnson: When I listen to it, it connects me with him in a way that... if it weren't for the music, I wouldn't have no connection to him… Those songs is what I have. That's priceless. I mean, It's a blessing to be able to share with the world, you know?

Steven Johnson: He wanted to be a good man. Live a good life. Live life the right way. He tried marriage a couple of times. Even tried to marry my grandmomma, but because my great granddaddy was a Southern Baptist preacher, he wouldn't allow that marriage to be.

Steven Johnson: My granddad was born in Hazelhurst, Mississippi. At a very, very young age,  he ended up living with his mom and stepdad up in the Delta. And during his teenage years, he became intrigued with the guitar. And he would sneak out, looking in the windows of juke joints up in the Delta and listen to Son House and Charlie Patton and Willie Brown. He became intrigued…Something special about that music…

A young Robert Johnson, uninterested in share-cropping, working hard hours in the hot sun for little pay, began hanging around the dark bars in the Mississippi Delta. He’d catch performances from some of the originators of the Delta Blues. Musicians like Willy Brown and Son House.

Son House: So he’d follow me and Willy around on Saturday night, yeah Willy Brown.

Robert loved to watch Son House play. On occasion, the musicians at the juke joint would go take a break, smoke a cigarette, and Robert would slip up onto the stage.

Son House: we’d go out on break, catch some air, and he’d get the guitar and he’d just be noising the people, you know…they’d say make that boy put that thing down, he’s running us crazy!

Steven Johnson: All he doing is just noising to people. Get that, making all kinds of noise. Get that thing from him!

Robert was not good at guitar. And everybody knew it.

He was some local kid who the other bluesmen knew as an amateur, wannabe musician, and in the winter of 1931 Robert left the Delta heading south. He was on a mission to track down is biological father.

Steven Johnson:  Noah Johnson. And in searching for Noah Johnson. He hooked up with a guy called Ike Zimmerman. Ike became Robert Johnson's mentor. My granddad stayed at Ike's house a lot…

But considering Robert’s noisy inability, Zimmerman suggested they stop practicing in his house, around his family.

Steven Johnson:  Across from Ike's house there was a cemetery, and my granddad and Ike would go out in the cemetery and practice. He would say, "Robert, you can play just as loud as you want out here cause nobody's going to bother, nobody's gonna complain!’

Charlie Patton, an influence of Robert Johnson

Ike and Robert would sit on the edge of parallel tombs, and play. Often they’d pick their guitars through the night, singing midnight blues to the dead.

And this is where the story splits. In Son House’s retelling, he claims that Robert was away for just 6-8 months. In Steven Johnson’s research about his grandfather, he believes it was at least 2 years, maybe 3 or 4. But when Robert eventually returned to the delta, he stopped by some of his old haunts.

Son House: He was gone about 6, 8 months. When he come back me and Willy Brown was playin and he walked in and he says "can I play a tune?" I says "don’t come back with that Robert! you know the people don’t wanna hear that racket." he says  "let them say what they wanna say. I want you to see what I learnt.”

Robert proceeded to pick up the guitar and cast a sort of spell over the joint. It was as if 3 men were playing at once, a transcendent sound emanating from this young man they knew to be a noisy amateur. Something otherworldly poured from his fingers.

And so, in Son House’s telling, the room surmised, in his absence he must’ve gone to the crossroads and sold his soul in exchange for his newfound abilities.

Steven Johnson:  He was playing in a way that They had never heard. They didn't know that. I mean, how in the world could you leave that short period of time and then come back here out playin us? What did you do, Robert? And there goes the myth.

Robert did little to nothing to dispel this story in his life time, even writing songs about the crossroads, about the devil. Hellhound on my Trail, Cross Road Blues… And perhaps the proverbial nail in the coffin was that he would die young. The details are murky, but he was poisoned, and he had recently slept with the bartender’s wife.

Two years before his death, he was invited to record in San Antonio Texas. These recordings, plus a later session in a hotel room in Dallas a year later, would prove to be his full discography. Robert was poisoned in 1938 and died a violent death at 27 years old — the first in a line of influential musicians to die at 27.


Fil Corbitt:  Do you remember the first time you heard that story about Robert Johnson?

Chris Smith: Yeah, I do. And, and I heard it the way I think a lot of young white would be blues guys in the 1970s did, which is that an older person told it to me, probably another, slightly older white blues guy from whom I was trying to learn music

Chris Smith: I'm professor and chair of Musicology and Director of the Vernacular Music Center at Texas Tech University in Lubbock, Texas.

Chris also co-hosts a podcast called Sounding History, a great show that reframes global music history on a 500 year scale. In their first season, they made a piece about the fog of myth surrounding Robert Johnson.

Chris Smith: Son House was really the one who promulgated that story. Of course, Robert had died, and so Robert wasn't around to either confirm or deny it. But Robert's not the only person about whom that story was told. The blues man Tommy Johnson had that story told about him, and a great musician, great guitar player and singer called Pete Wheatstraw who called himself the devil's son-in-law. So it's this kind of common trope that blues guys used sometimes as a kind of self advertising thing. The thing about Robert is, Robert died young and he died as a result of malice. And Robert had a lot of songs about me and the Devil Blues and Hell Hound on my Trail. And he wrote toward that, if I could say. And he was an absolutely hellaciously good musician.

Fil Corbitt: I had noticed in the storytelling about Robert Johnson that there was this discrepancy between -- depending on who was telling it -- that there were certain people who were saying, he left for five or six months, came back, he was the best guitar player I ever saw. His grandson said he was gone for two or three years… Two to three years is plenty of time to get really good at the guitar. What he was doing in that time was he was going off to learn from Ike Zimmerman, an older blues man. And I mean, say it is one year, that is enough time I would imagine, to kind of develop a new style and pick up something if you're practicing it all the time.

Chris Smith: Yeah, And there's another thing about Robert that, that in the, in the early seventies when I first was introduced to his music, when the myth was still very alive amongst the young white guys of the blues revival... There's another thing that we didn't really realize about Robert at that time. Cause all we had was that Columbia LP set. Volume One and Volume Two of King of the Delta Blues Singers, and it collected all of his 78s. We didn't have the alternate takes. We didn't have other stuff. So it was this, almost like this fetish object. And here's this picture of Robert and in the, in the double one, the gatefold one, there's this beautiful image where he's sitting in the corner of a hotel room in Dallas, and he's facing into the corner of the room. This is the story we told on, on our own pod, on the sounding history pod, and he's doing it for a reason. He's doing it because he understands this technology behaves this way if I face in this direction. But it became this thing like, oh, but he was so tortured and shy that he couldn't bear to face people, and it wasn't anything like that. Ry Cooter said, no, that's not what he was doing, he was corner loading.

Corner loading is an audio technique, using the hard corner of a room to bounce and amplify certain frequencies over others. It’s a simple yet sophisticated approach to recording, and it can make a single voice and guitar sound just a little bit bigger.

Chris Smith: The other thing that we didn't really realize at that time was how much Robert was absolutely a second generation player, and one of the most important influences on Robert was that he could listen to records. Because that's where he really went to school. He went to school on the records of people like Henry Thomas and especially Charlie Patton. Charlie Patton was 30 years older than Robert. And the result was that Charlie started playing before there was recording. And there's a kind of beautiful, fascinating self consciousness that happens when a developing artist can access inspirations in material form, in physical form, and study them and like be a musicologist and go to school on them. And Henry Thomas and Charlie Patton, who were the first generation recorded, they couldn't do that. Not initially. Robert could, so Robert's second generation, kind of like we were the third generation who went to school on Robert’s records.

The fact that Robert Johnson had just one record - the 29 songs that made up King of the Delta Blues, was a big part of his legend.

Chris Smith:  I mean, it's understandable, right? We want to mythologize artists. We don't necessarily want them all, we don't want to perceive them as as tortured necessarily, although it makes a good story. But you know, creativity is mysterious. it's a mysterious thing, you know, especially in an art form like the Delta Blues that wasn't studied in universities, that wasn't taught as a formal, as a, as a considered sophisticated art. The myth is understandable because creativity is mysterious.

Chris Smith: Any creativity is situational. It happens at a moment in a particular way, and it would happen differently at another moment. I think we so much inherit this European romantic thing of — either the tortured artist in their garret, composing music or painting that the world doesn't understand, no one understands me! — or that it's this divine inspiration and, and in fact, the art forms that I'm interested in, not just the blues, are things that emerge out of circumstances and people, and people coping with circumstances.

Chris Smith: And for sure if you were a black person, a young black man in the Jim Crow South and you didn't want to work behind a mule or chopping cotton your whole life, then you were making choices to try to better your life. To try to have a life that wasn't brutal physical labor. Maybe have a life that would get you out of the Jim Crow South and you were putting yourself at risk just by being that person.

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Steven Johnson: He said I went to the crossroads, fell down on my knees, and begged the lord to save poor Bobby if you please. Now, if you asking for God to save you, it don't sound like you was selling yourself to the devil, asking for salvation at the same time.

The grandson of the bluesman who sold his soul to the Devil, Steven is a now a blues musician and preacher.

Steven Johnson: I believe my granddad was at a crossroad in his life. It’s like, every time I go to do good, evil is present… When I first began to really study my Granddad's 29 songs, I listened to them and I understood the life that he lived from being a womanizer to being a person that wasn't brought up in a home with a loving mother and a father figure that he could see on a daily basis ,to being a traveling man to, being a womanizer and drinking... A lot of times he would drink to actually play the music and to do a lot of the devilish stuff that he did.

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Chris Smith: Crossroads are mysterious places, mysterious, spooky. Risky places. Places full of risk and potential chaos in lots of world cultures. They are in West Africa. They are in the African Caribbean. They are in the American South. They were in in medieval Europe. That's why they put gallows and buried criminals at Crossroads. That's why Odysseus mistakenly meets his father and kills his father unknowingly at a crossroads, right? In the West African context, that crossroads is not a four-way crossroads.  It's a three way crossroads. It's three roads that come together. And the reason is that I find that a particularly resonant image is because if you're in a four way crossroads, like the end of the Tom Hank Castaway film, right? Where he's driving a UPS truck and he stops at a crossroads and the camera pulls way back wide and he stops there and it's evident that he doesn't know in which direction he's gonna go. He can't decide, but he could also at a four way crossroads, even if it's deserted, he could proceed straight, But a three way crossroads you have to make a choice.

right, or left.

Chris Smith: there's, there's power in that because life does do that. Right? And we don't know what comes on the road not traveled…Elegua is the patron of the crossroads, He's the God of chance or chaos or accident. He's also the God in a santaria ceremony, he's the God who comes first. If you're participating in Santaria Ceremony, the first songs are to him. And you sing and you play and you cleanse yourself and you pray in hopes that Elegua will will come because it's Elegua who opens the path. Right? It's that pathway thing again Elegua opens the path for the other gods to come.

This god of the crossroads and chaos is deeply linked to, perhaps one in the same with, the trickster. A figure that appears in cultures all over the world.

Chris Smith: when I'm teaching my own students, they always think of Loki in the Marvel comics universe.  Because you know, he starts out as being this chaos agent, right? But lots of cultures have chaos agents because I think in lots of cultures we understand that sometimes things happen for no good reason. Sometimes good things happen for no good reason and even more sometimes bad things. So we mythologize it. We say, 'ah, there's somebody who wants this chaos.' And one of the things I love about, about Elegua is that Elegua is really a way of saying, 'yeah, but chaos is gonna happen anyway, so why don't you make friends with it, maybe even learn to talk to it.'  And I think Robert, I think Robert did that.

The god of the crossroads is an agent of destabilization and it’s a god that has everything to do with pathways and direction.

Chris Smith:  I think that's a really good insight. To me, there's a kind of spiritual eloquence about understanding a change agent, the embodied deity of change, as not malicious, but simply as a personification, a deification of the way that the world actually is. The world is full of chance. The world is full of accidents, which are either horrible or happy, and a religion that accepts that, that says, 'yes, the world is full of chance and bad things happen for no reason, no appreciable, no seemingly visible reason. Just as sometimes good things do.'

Chris Smith: …there were moments in the history of this country in North America, in which it became theologically important to find, accident or change, to be evil, to be malicious, to attach malice to it, to perceive a malicious intelligence behind it.

Chris Smith: There's a great book by, uh, the journalist Michael Herr who's now dead. He, he was writing about the Vietnam War. He was one of the, Correspondence writing about that war and what it was like to be there as a young American. He wrote beautifully and, and very starkly and very sadly about Vietnam. And there's one point in the book where he says something like...  he's having a conversation with somebody and they're trying to trace,  when did the US involvement in Vietnam happen? Was it in 1965 when they faked the Tonkan bay explosion? or was it in 1962 when they sent advisors or you know, when did it happen? When, you know, when did it all begin? And he said, well, you know, you know, the really long historical view was, oh, it was when the French tried to hold onto it in the fifties. But Herr said, you know,

Chris Smith: (paraphrasing Michael Herr)”…maybe you just have to think back to those first English Protestants coming to North America and finding the woods of North America so deep and vast and scary that they filled up those spaces with their own devils…”


The pathway is hot, the sky thick with smog. Los Angeles Police helicopters endlessly whir overhead, while pinwheels on the ground mimic the action, squeaking in the light breeze of the cemetery. Early Summer in Compton and I walk the rows, reading hundreds of names, crouching to brush off the freshly mown lawn clippings.

With some help from the undertaker, I find the gravestone decorated with a small guitar. About 20 years after Robert Johnson’s death, his mentor Ike Zimmerman left Mississippi. Sometime in the 1950s he gave up music entirely and moved here to California, then became a pentecostal preacher. I wonder if he thought back much to his previous life, teaching guitar to a wayward kid in the local cemetery. Two men joined through music and circumstance, under a warm Mississippi moon. There’s a good chance Ike was no devil, just a good guitarist who died of a heart attack at 68 years old  far away from the Delta.


Steven Johnson: And I don't know, I wonder to this day, whether my granddaddy dismissed the myth or just lived alright with it. I really don't know. But I do know is the gift that he had and the skills that he obtained, came from a lot of practice and performances in the central Mississippi area during the time he came back.

Sometimes practice, patience, community seem of an other world. Inaccessible, hard to believe.

Chris Smith: Although it is a myth, although it was a myth that some of those blues guys attached to themselves or that others, some other blues guys attached to people like Robert, It recognizes that creativity is a mysterious thing.…you have to create the circumstances that permit the God to come or that permit the creativity to come. You gotta be pure, you have to have the right intentions. You have to have your tools. You have to have your space. You have to have your sound. You have to have your movement. You have to have your community who are all working together with true spirits to make this magical spark happen. …But I truly believe they, they emerge through moments of human communities trying to make sense of the world through which they're moving.

Chris Smith: I'm 63 years old. I don't need to believe what I believed at 13, that Robert had sold his soul. A half century later I can instead be completely humbled and completely inspired and completely empowered by the courage it takes in conditions of great suffering, whether you're black or indigenous or brown or female or non-cis, to turn around and say, ‘I'm going to make art that celebrates my experience.’ To me, that is the greatest mystery of all…

Chris Smith: And that's why I would sign that contract. 



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Satanic Panic

Vox writer Aja Romano on the Satanic Panic, and how it is still playing out.



Aja Romano writes about pop culture, media, and ethics for Vox. They’re considered an authority on fandom, the internet, and the culture wars.


The following transcript was machine generated, then edited by me. Apologies for any typos I missed.

Fil Corbitt: Can you introduce yourself and say where you're based?

Aja Romano: Hi my name is Aja Romano. I'm a culture writer for Vox, and I'm in Brooklyn.

Fil Corbitt: How do you define the Satanic panic?

Aja Romano: I view the Satanic panic as two different things that are connected. The Satanic panic refers to a specific era during the 1980s and 1990s …And this led to a number of people being in a number of, of, of institutions being unfairly criminalized and persecuted because they were believed to be spreading satanism basically. So there's that. But then Satanic Panic as a belief system also refers to the ongoing use of the idea of Satanism and hysteria around satanism and satanic ritual abuse to continue to spread moral panics today.

Fil Corbitt: That article you wrote for Vox about the Satanic panic specifically in the eighties into the nineties you wrote that kind of the rise in public interest about satanism and the occult kinda happened just a little bit before that in the seventies. What were kind of some of the roots of this fascination that seemed to take hold?

Aja Romano: So I think you had 2 different trajectories converging. And so you had in the late sixties and early seventies, you had a lot of psychosexual material entering the public consciousness. You had things like the Manson murders really putting the idea of killer ritual cults on the map. You had the rise, obviously, of the counterculture. And there was a moral panic surrounding that. You have these drug crazed hippies ruining everything. And at the same time we saw kind of this counter interest in fundamentalist religion rising.

Aja Romano: And so you had all of this kind of bubbling through the seventies and you had specifically, you had these memoirs. So in 1972, you had this book called this memoir that was entirely false called Satan Seller. That's kind of an example of one of those guys who claimed to have found God after undergoing an incredibly traumatic childhood in which he was forcibly inducted into this Satanic cult where he rose through the ranks to murder children and perform all kinds of unspeakable sexual acts. And then he became the high satanic priest. And... it was completely made up. Completely made up, but it was a bestseller. People ate it up. And it sort of gave rise to a number of other copycat types of writings. And this sort of continued throughout the seventies and into the eighties. …that was sort of the zeitgeist at the time.

Fil Corbitt: One of the flashpoints that you mentioned too is the book "Michelle Remembers", which sort of taps into some of that as well. Can you describe what that was and kind of its impact on this whole movement.

Aja Romano: Yeah, Michelle remembers was published in 1980, so it's sort of like the beginning of the actual Satanic panic, I would say. The difference between Michelle Remembers and everything that came before it, is that it had the stamp of authority because it was co-written by a guy who was at the time an an acclaimed psychologist. He was also faking it. Everything he did was, well, bad -- to put it mildly. Like for one thing, the titular Michelle was his wife who was his former patient. And so the psychologist essentially kind of coaxed her into "recovering repressed childhood memories." There were many psychological methods that have since been discredited. But the memories that she "recovered" were all about her being part of a Satanic cult and undergoing what became known as Satanic ritual abuse.

And then Pazder -- Lawrence Pazder, the psychologist -- helped her publish this memoir called Michelle Remembers. It became a best seller and it really mainstreamed this idea that Satanic cults were real, Satanic cults abusing children were real, and that they were doing so during these like high Satanic rites. It codified essentially a lot of the ingredients, kind of a template for how people would then begin to accuse others of enacting Satanic ritual. When I say it was a template: it actually was used as a textbook for police, for law enforcement agencies during the eighties and early nineties. It was a big deal. Not only law enforcement, but other child psychologists and other authorities, teachers... It was presented to people as "this is a guide for how you can recognize if someone has undergone Satanic ritual abuse." But again, all of this was completely false.

The memoir was completely false. Michelle Smith was never in a satanic cult. But the horse was out of the barn by the time people really realized that.

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Fil Corbitt: How did this phenomenon play out in real life?

Aja Romano: To a degree you can say that it's still playing out. And this is where you make the distinction between the actual period that people think of as the era of Satanic Panic and the pattern that it set in motion. That is, people having their suspicions raised and then going off half-cocked and making accusations against other people and having those accusations land. 

Aja Romano: When I say having those accusations land, I mean having them found credible within the court system. What you had beginning around 1980, the same year that the book was published was that people who read Michelle Remembers started to accuse locals in their area of being parts of these satanic cults. The first example were social workers in Bakersfield, California. Accusing people who were childcare workers of being part of a clandestine occult sex ring. And so you had law enforcement investigating these claims. So you had the Bakersfield accusations that led to a full blown police investigation. And those. Actually resulted in 26 people at least being sent to jail.

Fil Narration: Actually in this case 36 people. Most of their convictions were later overturned due to lack of evidence.

Aja Romano: There were many people who actually spent decades in prison because of this. And most of those sentences were eventually overturned. And most of those people were eventually exonerated, but not all of them were. Some of them died in prison. Some of them were only exonerated after they died. And I think at least one of them was still in prison as of a year ago. So, I mean, it's really hard to quantify the human toll of all this.

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In many of these cases, analysts, police and psychiatrists who were often not trained at all in questioning children, were bought in to interrogate young kids and in doing so, would ask leading questions. So, though children should be of course listened to, especially when raising concerns about the actions of authority figures, it seems quite clear in retrospect that these kids were encouraged to confirm what the interrogators already believed. The children in one case told pretty fantastical tales about rituals and blood. One said that the teacher in question was able to fly. To some, this was proof of supernatural satanic forces — but to others, it seemed to confirm that the kids were being encouraged to tell creative stories.

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Aja Romano: I think another really good example is the San Antonio Four who were a group of lesbian women. And this didn't happen until 1997, which is very, very late in the era of Satanic panic. We saw these women being tied to accusations of child molestation on absolutely no basis, but because they were all gay essentially local prejudice played out against them. And and they were convicted on no evidence. And they spent 15 years in prison. Ultimately they had their convictions overturned. But again, it took 15 years

Fil Corbitt: That's something I did want to talk about as well is how allegations of satanism and of occultism are often tied in a lot of these cases, specifically to queer people.

Aja Romano: Something that queer people know really well, but often gets overlooked if you're a member of a fairly stable majority community...Like, if you're a queer person you kind of learn to embrace villainy as part of your identity because what other choice do you have in a society that is constantly trying to turn you into a villain, right? So if you see yourself as a villain and you know you're gonna be villainized anyway, then you you embrace villainy, you embrace deviance. I mean, look at the meme, "be gay, do crimes", right? You perform exuberant deviance as part of your identity, and, Ironically, it then gives the the people who want to persecute you more fodder to persecute you when the time comes.

Aja Romano: Which is how we get to this idea of like, you know, "oh, gay people, like gay men are always pedophiles or gay men are always linked to sexual predation" and all of these other stereotypes that are emphatically not true, but they're still used today to to demonize and marginalize queer people.

Aja Romano: One of the pieces that I wrote this year was a round table that I did with my colleagues, Alissa Wilkinson and Emily VanDerWerff, who are like me, from rural areas. And we all grew up reading this famed Christian fantasy author Frank Peretti and we did this round table on Frank Peretti novels of the eighties and why they were so influential. He wrote this book called This Present Darkness, which paved the way for this era of Christian fantasies, including the Left Behind series. And this book was kind of a fictional version of what I just talked about. It basically posits that there's this preacher in this town who realizes that he's facing a vast left-wing, liberal conspiracy that is being essentially propped up In the shadows by a bunch of demons. The way that it presents the fight between good and evil is that the heroic Christians in the book will essentially be faced with liberals who are saying really nice things about like, love and kindness, and they want you to do yoga, but behind them -- like literally physically behind them -- there's a giant hulking demon. It's all a ploy to suck you into the grasp of Satan. And this book sold millions of copies. I read it when I was like 12 and it f***ed me up for like a whole year. It just really took hold of me and I saw demons everywhere. That's how you think when you're 12. But this is really how this panic spreads. It's because even the most innocuous, anodyne, well-intentioned thing can become swept up in this idea that it's all part of this more noxious larger agenda.

Aja Romano: And that's sort of the root, that's the core of what Satanic panic is, you know? This idea that everything they do is suspicious.

Fil Corbitt: These conspiracies, like you said, are basically claiming there are like satanist daycare workers. There's like this shadowy cabal of underground Satan worshipers that exists at your daycare, in your everyday life, in your peaceful suburb. But what it seems to be, in this really weird twist is like... it's this bizaro, made-up, reflection world of what was actually happening in a lot of the Evangelical and Catholic churches in these places. Sexual abuse was happening in these places and it wasn't being done by a shadowy cabal of Satanists, you know, it was being done by like prominent community figures.

Aja Romano: Right. And you know, we recently learned that the Southern Baptist Convention actually had a spreadsheet for years that it compiled of sexual predators who were in the church, who were in the Southern Baptist Convention as leaders... and apparently they had that spreadsheet and it was there and nobody did anything.

Aja Romano: To some degree, a lot of this is just systemic, right? Like in any system where power is gained by playing the game and then maintaining the game, you're gonna have people who benefit from that system because other people are incentivized to be silent, and not rock the boat. And that's exactly how you wind up with -- with the example of the Catholic church -- decades of people being able to prey on victims and have no consequences because they just keep getting moved around because that's the system. And I think when you do try and speak out against a system like that, you become the target of slander. So like what's the quickest way to shut down any conversation about pedophilia in the church? It's to make the real problem all the people out there who are trying to bring the church down. It's to deflect. And a really, really good way to deflect is to spread hysteria about whatever enemy you happen to be using as your deflection point on that particular day There's a ready list of groups who get that target at any given moment.

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Fil Corbitt: A lot of the Satanic panic did focus on heavy metal music and punk and they were playing with these really interesting narrative lines around power. And so I'm wondering, how do you see power playing out here?

Aja Romano:  When you think about music in the eighties and where we were in the eighties, you know, you had the rise of suburbia, especially during the era of Reaganomics. Suburbia was the ideal of the American capitalist dream, and it was supposed to represent traditional American values. You're supposed to have your white picket fence and 2.5 kids and it was supposed to be this garden of safety and traditionalism and law-abiding people who knew what the rules were. And so when you think about heavy metal music in the context of that, heavy metal music just kind of blows everything up. And punk rock too.

Aja Romano: Anytime you have a bunch of kids who are coming from these like supposedly stayed middle class backgrounds talking about their disaffectedness and singing about blowing shit up and wanting to take wrecking balls to the power structure, it's gotta be really disturbing to the people who want to preserve that power structure, right? And so heavy metal music itself becomes a really easy target. Especially because punk rock and metal are both subcultures that are about aesthetics as much as they are about the music itself, right? They're about performing your nonconformity essentially.

Aja Romano: Obviously in punk, you have various specific types of hairstyles and dress and codes that show your commitment to the subculture. The same with metal, the same with goth. You have these lifestyles that are about making the music a part of this larger statement of identity and individuality which conflicts directly with the kind of America that we were supposed to have in the eighties, within this very prosperous era of like yuppies moving to the suburbs.

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In the book Teenage Wasteland, author Donna Gaines follows a group of burnouts in suburban New Jersey, watching as their adolescence becomes adulthood, drinking and smoking weed in parking lots and abandoned industrial sites. Called to the town by a highly publicized and tragic suicide pact between 4 young rock fans in 1987, she watches through the following years as relationships and reputations grow and shift in a friend group adjacent to the tragedy. She tries to understand what kids like this were actually going through.

In one passage she writes:

“For kids growing up now…. in a town like mine, the dreams of prior generations are lost. The suburban frontier no longer exists, there is no sure place to move to find a better life. Land is increasingly unavailable, unaffordable, or unuable. Home ownership is becoming unimaginable. (This was published in 1990 by the way) The trend of remaining at home into adulthood drags on, making the dream of independent living seem impossible. You feel stuck in your hometown forever, like it or not.”

“…The world “out there” is shrinking. The possibilities of suburbia are exhausted and your capacity to dream has reached a dead end…”

Aja Romano: To be this upset, something had to have gotten ahold of them, you know? And if it wasn't drugs, then what was it? It must be Satan.

Fil Corbitt: It's so interesting because what got ahold of them is like... the hollowness or the broken promises of the parents themselves or of the society itself.

Aja Romano: If you listen to the lyrics of these songs, that's exactly what they're saying,…  There's a real refusal to be self-reflective and to examine the underlying causes that might be creating whatever disaffectedness you're witnessing. And instead the impulse is to go, "oh, this must be due to some X, Y, Z, larger, almost supernatural force."

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Aja defines the Satanic panic as 2 separate but connected things. First, a specific era in the 80s and 90s where moral hysteria spread and court cases about satanic ritual abuse lead to the very real imprisonment of innocent people. Second, the Santanic Panic is a mode of thought, a moral panic, whose framework continues to exist and sway legislation and public opinion to this day. And one of the eternal battle fields of moral panics like this, is (and always has been) music.

In contemporary culture, we see this playing out with artists like Lil Nas X being lambasted on right wing cable television. His music video for Montero (Call me by Your Name), features him riding a stripper pole to hell and giving a cartoonish representation of the devil a lap dance. It’s a pretty funny and interesting use of imagery, but to hear the talking heads say it, it’s just the newest example in a long line of musicians pedaling satanic sexuality with a nefarious agenda…

Aja Romano: It's probably not a coincidence that the greatest blues musician of all time, Robert Johnson, was also considered to have sold his soul to the devil, right? Because what kind of music is blues? It's all about lamenting your oppression, lamenting poverty, lamenting your disenfranchised state as a black person in the south. When you look at people like little NAS X, who he's been so brilliantly parodying a lot of that mentality, that gives him a certain power. Because obviously being queer, a lot of that queer culture is about reclaiming power and turning symbols and codes that have been used to marginalize you and oppress you and be bigoted towards you -- turning those symbols into reclamations of power and control and joy and exuberance. That's a core part of the queer experience. And what better way to do that than through music?

Featuring: Aja Romano



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The Demon Who Eats Demons

A winding ride through the metal scene in Kathmandu, Nepal



The men stand alert in front of an ancient temple. Kathmandu Nepal, and the late spring sun is hot and red on the horizon: beating down the dirt and smooth stone streets into the plaza. An audience congeals around them, and the men, mostly young, in T-shirts and sneakers, nervously approach the demon.

The demon has the body and bare feet of a human… colorful clothing, a belt made of small metal bells, flesh on dirt and stone. But its face is enormous. Its smile is framed by long fangs and its eyes are like the edge of a wilderness. The face is bright red, except for mane of black hair, long and streaked with grey. The demon’s name is Lakhey and as it begins to dance it throws fire into the sky.

When the men cautiously approach, Lakhey stands still, holding a staff, playing it cool. But in the blink of an eye, he snaps into chase and the men, previously taunting and shouting are now in primal flight, sprinting away through traffic into the dusty sunset. The Lahkey disengages, and the men return, and the game repeats.

“ I used to think: how can I form a new band full of experimentation and how can I show the culture of Nepal, you know? How can I represent Nepal by playing metal music?” -Anil Dhital

Lakhey after band practice


Though the origins of Heavy Metal on a global scale aren’t clear cut and more of a culmination of many influences — I don’t think it’s a coincidence that some of the first bands pioneering heavy sounds were from England’s Black Country. This part of the UK was so industrialized in the 19th century that it earned that colloquial name because of the smoke and soot that covered the land.  Bands like Black Sabbath and Judas Priest took root in the Black Country and nearby Birmingham in the 1970s, and Sabbath especially made an entire image around this blackened post-industrial landscape.

And I also don’t think it’s a coincidence that the rise of Thrash Metal largely came from southern California in the early 1980s. In Los Angeles, Metallica released their first album in a year where smog was so bad that 227 days failed to meet healthy standards on the Air Quality Index. Not to say that metal is the direct result of air pollution, but it seems that heavy and aggressive forms of expression correlate in some way to an all-encompassing, atmospheric frustration, choking and inescapable.

Prateek: It's a lot to do with society and politics and a bit of illogical religious practices that we kind of have to follow sometimes. So those are the Major sources. The weather is fine though.  I went to Finland. We were thinking the same thing, you know: Scandinavia, everything is nice so why are there metal bands there? Then you kind of see their weather and you kind of understand. (laughs) So weather-wise, we're fine. We're probably happy people. But there are a lot of other social frustrations.

Binaash

“These instruments are really sacred // We respect this instrument as a God.”

-Uzan Sahee


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The Devil's Postpile

Mailer Daemon, Devil's Trill Sonata, the influence of Indigenous music on rock'n'roll and Anti-Rock preachers. An audio pile of vectors and missives.



“One night, in the year 1713 I dreamed I had made a pact with the devil. A pact for my soul. Everything went as I wished: my new servant anticipated my every desire. Among other things, I gave him my violin to see if he could play. How great was my astonishment on hearing a sonata so wonderful and so beautiful, played with such great art and intelligence, as I had never even conceived in my boldest flights of fantasy.

I felt enraptured, transported, enchanted: my breath failed me, and I awoke.

I immediately grasped my violin in order to retain, in part at least, the impression of my dream. In vain! The music which I at this time composed is indeed the best that I ever wrote, and I still call it the "Devil's Trill", but the difference between it and that which so moved me during slumber , during visitation, is so great that I could have destroyed my instrument and said farewell to music forever if it had been possible. But I cannot live without the enjoyment it affords me.”

Guiseppe Tartini, quoted in The Voyoge of a Frenchman in Italy, 1766.

John Martin, Pandemonium, 1841

John Martin, Pandemonium, 1841

“In biblical sources, the Hebrew term ‘the Satan’ describes an adversarial role. It is not the name of a particular character. Although Hebrew storytellers as early as the sixth century BCE occasionally introduced a supernatural character whom they called the satan, what they meant was any one of the angels sent by God for the specific purpose of blocking or obstructing human activity. The root STN means “one who opposes, obstructs or acts as adversary.: The Greek term diabolos…literally means, “one who throws something across one’s path.”

The Origin of Satan by Elaine Pagles.

Rumble is a 2017 documentary that traces the influence of indigenous people on the development of rock and roll and modern music. From early blues musicians like Charley Patton, who pioneered the delta blues, laying the foundations for rock music, to Jimi Hendrix, whose grandma was a black, indigenous vaudeville performer.

The film explains that many of Jimi Hendrix’ iconic costumes with fringe and boas were inspired by his grandmother Nora, with whom he was close.

The film takes its name from the song Rumble by Native American guitarist Link Wray, which is one of the early songs credited with popularizing guitar distortion…

It’s also apparently the only instrumental track ever banned from the radio.


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The Devil's Duel

Paradise Lost, The Devil Went Down to Georgia, re-litigating pop culture’s most famous fiddle duel.

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Now it may not be wise to glean religious insight from youtube comments, but… Below the video of The Devil Went to Georgia by the Charlie Daniels Band, I ran across a reply that I found particularly interesting: a sort of fan theory. It claimed that in this duel between Johnny and the Devil, despite his conciliatory actions at the end, the Devil did actually win. Many people seem to think his solo is stronger or more interesting, but that is beside the point in this fan theory… because simply in succeeding to lure Johnny into a fiddle duel, he deceived the young fiddler into a sin: pride, a sin the devil knew well. (not to mention cursing)

Now this youtube theory sparked some debate. If it matters, the author of the song, Charlie Daniels does not buy it. He has publicly claimed that Johnny’s solo in his opinion is better because it’s less noisy. “You can’t hum the devil’s solo”, he said. Secondly, he released a sequel, in which the devil returns to Georgia to try again, which of course would not happen if he already succeeded in luring Johnny into the trap of pride.

So in the Charlie Daniels cannon, this fan theory is dubious. But the devil is a master of deceit — could not it be possible that Charlie Daniels himself was fooled into singing the tale of a successful satanic escapade: earning a living on its royalties all the while, believing the moral of the story to be the opposite?

The argument I found most fascinating against this fan theory, was that, sure, the devil is a deceitful figure who is trying to collect and damn souls, but in stories of this ilk, especially in the deep south, the devil is good for his word. If he strikes a deal, for some inexplicable reason he must keep up his side. He is deceitful, sure, but defeated by a sharp mind. It’s an odd positioning. Fully evil, except bound to his own honesty.

The Devil is a fascinating figure, and I think for that reason he shows up a lot. In poems and literature, in film and of course, in music. Long after Milton’s devil in Paradise lost convinces Eve to eat the forbidden apple, a democratized version of this character still roams the earth, corrupting souls, often arising in moments of hypnosis, by saying the right thing at the right time, through the stomping feet in a barn, a driving downbeat in a juke joint, through the hellish crackle of an electrified guitar… In these stories, Satan almost always enters through the ear.

So, with that in mind, we are going to litigate pop culture’s most famous fiddle duel. Listen to the episode and vote. Thanks for listening, and choose wisely…


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